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Change in wiki commons rate-limiting? Getting frequent 429 - errors on wiki commons image requests

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I have an app (ios / android) that is displaying images from wikimedia commons (Hotlinking) that has been out for over a year. About a week ago I started seeing a massive increase of 429 - Too many Requests responses. Nothing on our side has changed, the requests come from user devices (and IPs) and the 429 responses come after about 10-20 requests (request volume hasn't changed either). This seems to be a problem for other projects as well as evidenced by this reddit thread and this bug report. I am sending a user agent with requests as recommended here. Bbbub (talk) 11:14, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia is applying much stricter IP rate limiting yes. You can thank the AI bots. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 12:41, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I understand that wikimedia needs to guard it's resources against misuse but to me it doesn't seem like normal ratelimiting, we see these 429 responses with very low requests (10-20), other developers (in the linked thread) mentioned getting it for single requests. Additionally other requests sent directly afterwards might go through. Bbbub (talk) 08:01, 6 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Bbbub Oh, another thing is, that only specific thumbnail sizes are still allowed. If you are manipulating URLs to get your image to fit to a certain dimension, you will also see this erroring with 429s. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 12:43, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I am working with different thumbnail size brackets (..., 640, 800, 960, ...) for different screen sizes. I am pretty sure I got the sizes originally from Wikimedia, but let me know if there has been a change or a source for the allowed thumbnail sizes so I can verify. Bbbub (talk) 07:37, 6 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Another problem. You should set the loading=lazy attribute on the img, so that you only download images that are actually likely to be within view. This is especially needed for things like this kind of gallery code. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 12:46, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
This is a pretty important one for you specific use case. If you are requesting 30 images that all still need to be generated, even though only 15 are visible, then you will quite quickly run into rate limits. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 13:25, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
We're only loading the images that come into view, and we're seeing 429 responses with 10-15 images loading already, and in the linked reddit thread others described seeing it for one-off loads as well. Bbbub (talk) 07:43, 6 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Ah and you are using thumb.php. Thumb.php which isn't generally used for wikimedia traffic as it is the endpoint for on demand generation of a thumbnail. Wikimedia uses: https://upload.wikimedia.orgTheDJ (talkcontribs) 12:54, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
That was actually another poster on the thread not me, I used the direct links to wikimedia Bbbub (talk) 07:49, 6 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'm the other poster. Perhaps ironically, thumb.php was an unideal workaround I figured out. upload.wikimedia.org would return 429s while thumb.php would not. ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 08:21, 6 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Chiming in as another external developer who ran into this: hotlinked images loaded clientside (in-browser) were getting 429ed, even in situations where I was only loading a few images. I realized that my webapp was not sending in the Referrer header when requesting hotlinked images. After restoring the Referrer header, I could load thumbnails just fine. So I'm guessing the lack of the Referrer header was one heuristic that (combined with others) resulted in the 429 errors. More details on the Phab thread. ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 08:21, 6 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

See the phab link to the right. I corresponded with WMF developers using the e-mail address given in the error message, and the problem was fixed almost immediately. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:00, 19 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Special search partially down?

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Hi, since today i notice that this special seach query is not delivering the expected results. "Georg Scholz" -deepcategory:"Georg_Scholz" . Expected to exclude but it does include the cat. I tested this in 2 browsers. Has anything been changed? Maybe one more of the available special search buttons of the categorie MORE menu is affected. Like: deepcategory:"Georg_Scholz" should show all but shows nothing. Looks like these 2 actions are inversed somehow. Can this be fixed please? Thanks Peli (talk) 15:11, 15 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

It is not working for me either. Strangely for me, deepcat only works for categories with only one word in its title (i.e. title without any spaces), all other category names does not work. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 20:36, 15 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I've noticed the same while doing deepcat searches on Wikipedia birthday cakes. I've opened a ticket: T414763. ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 02:03, 16 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
A patch has been submitted here. ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 15:43, 17 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, but on Wikimedia commons in categories I still see these errors of not showing any deepcategory items on empty query, and of not properly excluding the category contents upon using -deepcategory. I'm not sure if I need to purge a page or something, beacause I tested it in 3 browsers and the reslults are: never the requested items, in all 3 cases. Peli (talk) 18:49, 17 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Pelikana: Sorry I wasn't clear, the patch was created but it hasn't actually been deployed yet. I'm guessing we won't see it fixed until early in the week. ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 20:02, 17 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi, it looks like the issue has been solved on some level. It's repaired or patched and workable now. thanks. Peli (talk) 08:57, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Today I found a bug in cases where the query has an "&". Example: deepcat:"Pellerin & Cie" Try a deepcat search in deepcat:"Pellerin & Cie" results in this search: deepcategory:"Pellerin_ No matches because wrong folder name. The folder name to look in is truncated after the "&". I know there must be a patch for this since my branched button that automates " " -deepcat:" " ("Pellerin & Cie" -deepcat:"Pellerin_&_Cie") has such a patch and works well at this time. The fork is hosted and patched by User @Samwilson: . I hope the regular button/function can be patched as well, without affecting opposite functions. i.e Search outside of category. Peli (talk) 11:15, 22 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Please file a (separate) bug report for that.
I also found another similar problem where incomplete are shown and now filed a separate issue, phab:T415299 Incomplete deepcategory search results despite of no warning message. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Uses of Wikidata Infobox for deleted Wikidata items

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Can anyone explain why Category:Poudenas is in Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox for deleted Wikidata items? Like any normal use of {{Wikidata Infobox}} there is no explicit qid; the category is linked in what appears to be the usual manner by Poudenas (Q1104298). - Jmabel ! talk 03:13, 16 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Jmabel: Probably a caching issue. If you edit Category:Poudenas, the link "Wikidata item" in the sidebar goes to the recently deleted d:Q130513616 item. LennardHofmann (talk) 10:02, 16 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
So not only a caching issue, but one not fixed by action=purge (which I had already tried). So just wait and hope it "heals"? - Jmabel ! talk 19:08, 16 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
 Comment, this is likely related to this ongoing discussion here: Commons:Village pump#No infobox visible in Category. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 19:51, 16 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yup, I'd just noticed that and was coming here to post the same. - Jmabel ! talk 21:54, 16 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2026-04

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:26, 19 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

A cluttered unoverseeable sea of blue that's exhausting to go through – really an improvement?
Great to see some work on the Global Watchlist – it includes a button to see a diff of all unseen changes with a click. I don't know how people can use the Watchlist without such a button.
However, it's still not really usable in practice because unless you check all your Watchlist items each and every day there are seas of blue of username-links and that diff button is at an always varying location after the article title, impeding opening up many diffs one after another.
Here's two wishes calling for this to be changed; I don't think the Global Watchlist is usable really in its current shape so I hope somebody will eventually fix these problems (at least via options):
(voting open!). Prototyperspective (talk) 23:20, 20 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

STL file is rendered incorrectly by the media viewer 3D extension

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I have just uploaded the file 5-Cell Schlegel Diagram.stl. All the previews have been rendered correctly. However, when I display the file in the media viewer, it is rendered incorrectly: basically, the entire object is displayed in pure white, as if the object was completely overexposed. The display problem occurs under Linux as well as under iOS. Is there a way to diagnose why this is happening? What can I do to make the STL file render correctly in the media viewer? Any suggestions will be much appreciated. Carsten Steger (talk) 14:34, 20 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Linked relevant Phabricator ticket. - Jmabel ! talk 19:39, 20 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
There are other STL files that are not displayed correctly. For example, the file Sphericon.stl is displayed as a medium gray filled polygon in Safari on iOS. Carsten Steger (talk) 21:22, 20 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Or Wikipedia puzzle globe 3D render.stl, Menger sponge 2.stl and 3D model of the human mouth.stl, which, like the file I have uploaded, are displayed much too bright (almost completely white). Carsten Steger (talk) 21:28, 20 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I get the same incorrect rendering under Windows with Firefox and Internet Explorer. Since the preview rendering with 3d2png works correctly, I suspect this is a bug in the 3D extension of the media viewer. Maybe the bug can be spotted by comparing the code of 3d2png to that of the 3D extension? Carsten Steger (talk) 07:58, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
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On this one File:Great_Mandala_(大曼荼羅)_of_Nichiren_Buddhism.svg I want to have language switching so that in japanese it links to all of the Japanese articles, english to the currently linked articles, etc. How would I do that? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 19:12, 20 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Immanuelle: To have what link to pages in different languages? Something within the SVG, or something on the file page, or what? - Jmabel ! talk 01:12, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Jmabel the clickable links in the svg Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 01:18, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Immanuelle: Those are not in the SVG. Those are just ImageNotes (which contain Wikitext). You can do pretty much anything inside an ImageNote that you can do anywhere else on a page in Commons, and you do it exactly the same way. - Jmabel ! talk 01:22, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Jmabel no they are separate from the svg. Go here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Great_Mandala_%28大曼荼羅%29_of_Nichiren_Buddhism.svg and try clicking on anything in the image. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 01:44, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Oh, interesting, the two ImageNotes (which were what I instantly noticed as clickable) can serve something of the same function, which is why I was confused. I know there are ways to do multilingual SVGs, and I imagine the issues are the same for links in the SVG as for text, but I'm out of my depth there. You might ask one or more of the people who participated in #How to specify a SVG file's default language? above, which is clearly a closely related issue. - Jmabel ! talk 01:50, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
For links directly in the SVG when viewed directly, you can use the <switch> element. However this will use the browser's language which is sometimes different than the language the user expects (And different from whatever site they are viewing). If you want to use this in Wikipedia, I would suggest using an Image map instead. Bawolff (talk) 23:35, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Immanuelle:
One option is to link to Wikidata items instead of wiki articles. For example, instead of linking to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C4%81gar%C4%81ja, link to its Wikidata item: Rāgarāja (Q1188900). The en.Wiki article will give you the link on the right-hand side. The user can then scroll down to the bottom of the Wikidata page and click a link to his favorite wiki.
A more involved option is a URL that takes the Wikidata item and the HTTP Accept-Language header. The URL would then redirect the user to the user's preferred wiki article if it exists. If it doesn't exist, then the URL would redirect to the Wikidata item.
Glrx (talk) 04:25, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Glrx do you know of any files that do that more involved option? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 05:40, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Immanuelle: No, but the idea has been raised before. The URL needs to be written. It could be on toolforge or a Wikidata endpoint. Glrx (talk) 16:36, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Blocked for too many requests

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Hi, I have a VBA script that I use to download the photos, in practice now usually a recent subset of them, that I have uploaded to Wiki Commons. (I won't go into the reason why I want to download photos that I have already uploaded, but there is a reason.) This used to (say a year or two ago) work perfectly even for hundreds and hundreds of images. Now it struggles to do a dozen or so, before I am blocked, I believe for making too many requests in too short a time. Then eventually it will start working again and let me do a few more, slowing down to a trickle. I suppose this blocking must be a feature recently introduced? I have never been blocked from browser access, however. Even immediately after the script being blocked, I can open pages in the browser (from the same IP address). Anyway, I can try adding pauses between downloads. I've tried five or ten second pauses but it seems to make little difference so far. Anyway, I wouldn't have thought my volume was particularly unreasonable on the scale of server traffic generally. Anyone got any info about what is and isn't permitted, or what I can do to mitigate this issue? Thank you. ITookSomePhotos (talk) 22:02, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

See foundation:Policy:Wikimedia_Foundation_User-Agent_Policy and wikitech:Robot_policy. Unfortunately they have become much more strict with this recently. Bawolff (talk) 23:30, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Bawolff, that's useful. ITookSomePhotos (talk) 10:10, 22 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Do you download the original images or thumbnails? If the latter, you may be affected by mw:Common thumbnail sizes as well. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:32, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Original images. I have found that a thirty second pause between downloads (typically 3-5MB each) helps to prevent rapid blocking, but this does not work indefinitely. Eventually I still get blocked. When this happens, I am now looking at and honouring the "retry after" value, per the documents that Bawolff linked to. I have never seen any value other than 1000 (seconds). Even waiting this long, or even a bit longer for good measure, does not guarantee success. I have seen at least three of these in a row, i.e. total 50 minutes' wait. It seems a bit extreme, given that I am, with 30 second gaps, not putting any more load on the server than normal browsing though a browser. ITookSomePhotos (talk) 18:58, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

How to categorize pages using the OWIDslider gadget?

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daily meat consumption per person

Prototyperspective (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Internet is poor currently. Jmh649 is my old old account. Stuff posted there will not get to me. Will look more when internet is better. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:33, 23 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I posted this on your normal talk page. This is just the name of your archive page which is in your responsibility to rename or keep as is. Okay.
There are many examples of these files missing categories, here's a recent one I came across which may also elucidate the complexities involved here (e.g. do we want these hundreds of files to show up in deepcategory wall-of-images views or somehow separate them?):
Regarding separation or enabling the user to exclude the hundreds of files from OWID mass-uploads, maybe it would be good to better make sure files are put into Category:Uploaded by OWID importer tool so the user can exclude these and maybe add a note about this at the relevant places. I think views/scans usually should only show one or two page/file per set – a page with the interactive data graphic. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:20, 23 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
All the images we upload with the tool should be in the categroyr:Uploaded by OWID importer tool. We can run bots to add specific images to categories. For example see this https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Our_World_in_Data_graphs_by_country and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Our_World_in_Data_maps_by_continent.
I am thinking it might be easier to do more categorization after the upload rather than during the upload as these uploads are complicated. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:22, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
With respect to OWID: this is a namespace and would require permission to put content in it. If you can request and get consensus for that would be happy to put these all there by bot.
Per here have uploaded about 211,000 of these images so far. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Uploaded_by_OWID_importer_tool Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:28, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
So that graphs by country cat is populated by a bot; if so that sounds good – then there's less need to set the cat at time of upload and it could explain why you say "it might be easier to do more categorization after the upload rather than during". With respect to OWID: this is a namespace Don't understand what you mean. Basically the main issue of the thread is that the files are missing in the topic categories like Category:Meat statistics or Category:Renewable energy statistics and because it could clutter the pages and the category's search results, that may be good but the interactive visualization should be in these categories – so for example a page OWID: Daily meat consumption per person that loads quickly and contains just the interactive visualization embedded above. The OWID there is not the namespace but the page title (just standardized to have the OWID prefix) so it would be in the "Main"/gallery namespace in this case. If this is a good/best solution to that issue, then it would still need all those visualizations indexed (mostly or entirely?) in Category:Pages using gadget owidslider to get one of such page each. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:47, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
All the pages with the OWID visualizations are listed here Category:Pages_using_gadget_owidslider About 500 of them.
Please read this about naming conventions for namespaces Help:Namespaces Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:50, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Could you please address the questions – I linked that category in the comment you're replying to. Please see the part around and isn't it a problem… above. I thought it would be a good idea to discuss this instead of me figuring out myself what the best solution would be and then unilaterally implementing whatever it is without discussion but this is not much of a discussion. If you were saying you think a new separate namespace would be a good approach, that's not clear and I don't understand why that's needed or would be better than e.g. to create the mentioned kind of mainspace pages. Prototyperspective (talk) 00:09, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
What I am saying is we cannot use the title "OWID:Text" unless we get approval from the community at large as that is a new namespace.
I personally think the Category:Pages_using_gadget_owidslider is sufficient for me to find all these. If you want just the interactive graphs placed on a separate page we could do that, and would just need a naming structure.
What we have currently is here Template:OWID/daily_meat_consumption_per_person and we could have just the interactive graphs at Template:Daily_meat_consumption_per_person but not sure we need this. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:22, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for clarifying. Okay so it can't be colons in the prefix as that for pages in the "main"/gallery namespace indicates/requires a new namespace. One could also have the prefix be OWID – or OWID/ for example – the particular suggestion was just an idea/illustration.
I personally think the Category:Pages_using_gadget_owidslider is sufficient for me to find all these as elaborated above, the issue is making these findable for those looking for statistics of a certain topic via either browsing the associated category page or the search. Just having them in that category doesn't achieve that – it's about surfacing these visualizations to people who could be interested in them / to which these are useful.
If you want just the interactive graphs placed on a separate page we could do that do you know if there's a way to do that for all the pages in the Pages_using_gadget_owidslider cat? (maybe using some bot or tool) would just need a naming structure that's what the OWID: visualization name was all about – do you have another suggestion or which prefix(/suffix) would you prefer?
but not sure we need this as explained in the post starting the thread, these pages take long to load and are problematic to edit. It requires downloading lots of data and HotCat does not work on these so one can't edit the usual way and with autocomplete. Opening the wikitext editor takes long and is prone to failing. Also linking to these pages is probably confusing where people wonder what all the many files on the page are about and/or browse these instead of the interactive visualization. An alternative approach would be to remove the files from the template page but I'm not sure if that causes the visualization to break. The pages could link to each other. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:57, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Okay so like this OWID/daily_meat_consumption_per_person? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:55, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
This is in the gallery namespace which has no prefix. From reading here Commons:Galleries it seems this is okay but might be worth asking a wider audience before we create them all. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:00, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Asking a wider audience is what I was/am doing here; I thought and think this is the most appropriate large-audience place to discuss this. I pinged you in the comment not because this was addressed to just you. Okay so like this OWID/daily_meat_consumption_per_person? Yes, exactly, thanks. I edited the page to make the visualization larger and center it, what do you think? And also is there a way to create these pages for all the visualizations? Then I'd remove the cats on the large template pages and add them to these pages similar to how files are categorized (nearly all files in Category:Our World in Data except for these OWID Importer mass uploads are by now categorized by subject so this is basically the remaining issue to complete the topical categorization of these data graphics). Prototyperspective (talk) 13:19, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yes all these pages can be created by bot. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:40, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Nice, could you do that if there already is a bot for this and if not create the discussion at Commons:Bots/Requests? Prototyperspective (talk) 11:46, 30 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Regex help needed

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Please see my question at Commons talk:File renaming#Adding prefix. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:44, 24 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

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Files like File:St_Peter,_Bounces_Road,_Edmonton_-_geograph.org.uk_-_3802520.jpg and File:The Reverend Clive Foster MBE 1.jpg have pencil-shaped edit links for structured data. Can those icons be hidden in the printable version accessible from Tools, for the same reason why the main "Edit" link is hidden? Maybe the magnifier icons and the question mark icons, too. I'm guessing those are a part of a template somewhere, but I couldn't identify it. whym (talk) 05:01, 25 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

This is implemented by Module:WikidataIB. They can add "noprint" to class surrounding that symbol and it should no longer be there. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 16:46, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, but is that module for SDC in addition to Wikidata? The data values of the 2 files mentioned (at least those in the Summary/Information section) are pulled from SDC, although the properties are from Wikidata. I found core.editAtSDC and core.editAtWikidata in the meantime. Perhaps both modules are to be edited? whym (talk) 12:01, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Requested now at Module talk:Core. whym (talk) 11:39, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Is it possible to check file EXIF data with edit filters?

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Is it possible create an edit filter that would check file EXIF "user comment" field? Many copyvios have user comment "Screenshot" and it would be useful to automatically tag such uploads. Preventing is not necessary as there are legitimate files as well. MKFI (talk) 12:21, 25 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Let me hasard a guess: it's not possible, unfortunately (at least right now). Perusing Commons:Abuse filter and mediawikiwiki:Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules format, I didn't see any mention of (pre-made) EXIF-related variables. If, and that's a large if, the software could allow for arbitrary user-defined variables, then it's conceivable that such an EXIF-specific rule may be developed, but that's way beyond my own abilities. Pinging @Lustiger seth: whom I know as being knowledgeable about the edit filter technique, he may be able to provide a technical insight. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 13:26, 25 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Currently i don't see any possibility for using exif variables.
There are file attributes such as file_mime, file_size, file_width, but nothing for file content (incl. exif data). So i guess you should create a feature requesting ticket at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org. The only related ticket i found was https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170251, but that's only related vaguely.
-- seth (talk) 13:52, 25 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
This would also be an extremely useful feature for identifying likely AI uploads and Facebook copyvios. Omphalographer (talk) 05:07, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
The only way to do that right now, is to use quarry. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 16:42, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
As an aside, there's a slightly neater way of doing that which you might be interested in: quarry:query/101452. Omphalographer (talk) 18:42, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I often take screenshots of pictures I have taken to make sure that the geolocation data is removed. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:04, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Doc James: that's a really dirty way of removing metadata and, forcibly, reducing the quality. May I suggest that you edit the EXIF directly? There are hints for that in COM:Exif, I'd say "Use EXIFTool and EXIFToolGUI" (as long as you're on Windows), handy pieces of software for that. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 10:56, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
On Windows, you can edit EXIF via the file properties, which is even easier. - Jmabel ! talk 18:32, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2026-05

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:14, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Extra line break in PD-Canada-Crown template

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My Image Annotation button is gone

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Is it only me, or are annotations broken for anybody else as well? I neither see any existing annotations nor does the button "Add note" appear. And no, I didn't switch it off in my settings. Chianti (talk) 22:20, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Works for me. That's about the last thing to load, via JavaScript, after a whole bunch of other JavaScript, so if any other JS is broken, or if your JS times out, it could be missed. If you are enough of a techie to use the browser console, you may find a coherent error message, possibly very tangentially related to the symptom. - Jmabel ! talk 05:49, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Works for me in Chrome, Safari, and Firefox, but not Vivaldi, and it doesn't give any errors. While testing, I found that annotations won't show if the window is too narrow (less than about 830 pixels wide), so if your browser is blocking access to the window size (or you're using it on a phone in portrait orientation), that might be the problem. --Carnildo (talk) 22:17, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Ongoing WMF-sponsored work on video2commons

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As you probably know, there is not a lot of WMF developer support for Commons these days. The one thing I'm aware of that is moving forward is that they have a contractor working on video2commons. At meta:Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group#January 2026 they report some recent work; what is probably of most general interest is support for playlists and user-library uploads, better subtitle extraction, and several aspects of support for importing from YouTube.

From what I can tell, the one contractor currently working directly on this is doing good work; still, I continue to believe that Commons could benefit greatly from far more WMF dev support. It is good that they've shown that certain work can be successfully contracted out, but it is equally clear that most cannot, and that we need people at least a handful of developers who bring or, well, develop an understanding of Commons, not just of some individual tool. (With reference to "equally clear that most cannot", I was party to some of the discussions of where to focus this resource, and several higher priorities were rejected because handing them to a contractor would set that contractor up to fail.) - Jmabel ! talk 18:01, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Out of curiosity, what were the higher priority things that a contractor would be setup to fail if given? Bawolff (talk) 21:18, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Bawolff: I don't remember everything that went by, but I believe improvements to Video2Commons were the other leading candidate. I remember there was discussion of the Upload Wizard (apparently a bit of a mess internally, which—being a developer myself—amazes me: it is not doing anything I think should be complicated); CropTool was discussed, but it looks like a new group of volunteers have taken that on successfully; there was some discussion of MediaViewer, which I pretty much don't use so I had and have nothing intelligent to say on that front; there was definitely talk about getting seriously behind one of the batch uploading tools, probably PattyPan, and I think that was one that was rejected for this go-around on the basis of too large (there was only funding for three person-months); I also remember there was some discussion of rewriting Cat-a-lot (another where I personally have little to say: I'm pretty fine with it as it is).
I could be missing something here. When I was brought into this, I was promised it would be at most a few hours of my time in any given month, and I was in a reactive/reviewing mode and did not take copious notes. The most proactive thing I did here was to put about 8-10 tools on their radar that had not been on their initial list.
FWIW, my own ideas as to where I'd put resources are very different. My own view is that the single most valuable thing we could have is a full-time combination PM and volunteer coordinator to help coordinate volunteer-based work on tools, almost the opposite use of resources from a short-term, outside, contract-based developer. My overall take: not nearly enough WMF resources are devoted to tool support or to Commons; given that limitation, what they are doing is sane, but probably not optimal; "sane" is a big improvement on where we were a few years back. - Jmabel ! talk 18:23, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
not nearly enough WMF resources are devoted to tool support or to Commons agree if by "tool support" you mean tool development and I note that I can't think of many things that WMF could do that would be effective and relates to Commons that isn't technical development and doesn't involve it as the main part I remember there was discussion of the Upload Wizard would be great if development on it continues – see the ideas and requests at Commons_talk:WMF support for Commons/Upload Wizard Improvements (eg the recent threads near bottom).
Commons could benefit greatly from far more WMF dev support Very much agree! For example continued work on MediaSearch (e.g. see these issues for it here) or the mobile view of category pages or many of the wishes about Commons in the technical Wishlist: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/Wishes?tags=multimedia (voting open!)
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It is good that they've shown that certain work can be successfully contracted out, but it is equally clear that most cannot probably there is still lots of things that can be contracted out and so far I've not seen explanations for which things can't be (the reasons for why).
Other ideas are hiring more devs (remote, in chapters, and locally in the US), m:Wish bounties, and facilitating & aiding more open source volunteer development, e.g. via the concrete feasible ideas that I've outlined here.
Prototyperspective (talk) 18:50, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
A couple of issues with bringing in [relatively short-term] contractors for s/w development generally, nothing here specific to WMF:
  • In general, it is easiest to use contractors for very well-defined tasks that can reasonably be expected to be completed in a specific time frame, easily be tested to determine task completion, and not need a great deal of ongoing maintenance after that. The farther you get from that in any respect, the harder to use contractors.
  • Using contractors neither leverages nor builds up organizational memory. Unless a contractor is very fast on the uptake, it is far more crucial than for hiring a long-term employee to hire someone who is already strong in all of the relevant technologies, so in making a hire you may have to trade that off against overall skill level. Also, the lower the overall quality of any existing body of code, the harder it is for a contractor to take on doing almost anything with it, compared to someone who is in it for the long term.
Jmabel ! talk 23:25, 3 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Re wish bounties - bug bounty (not the security type but the type where you pay people to work on specific feature requests) has failed in basically every open source project it has been tried. I would suggest avoiding that unless people look carefully into why it failed in other projects and avoid falling into similar traps. Bawolff (talk) 09:24, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Interesting; could you provide some useful link(s) regarding this here or at the talk page of the page linked? (examples where it failed, info on why, etc) Haven't heard that and thought I heard of some quite successful cases. There's probably many ways this can be done – for example an org could offer bounties for implementation of any of a large set of wishes or Wikipedians could crowdfund development and specify ranked wishes etc. I'd love to donate to get tangible wiki wishes implemented under certain circumstances. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:07, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
After googling, maybe its not as clear cut as i thought. I did find https://ziglang.org/news/bounties-damage-open-source-projects/ and https://www.dokuwiki.org/bounties . That said, it is an idea people try to push in the open source world a lot (mostly companies who are hoping to get a cut) but there are very limited success stories. Its important to keep in mind that the going rate for mediawiki consulting is somewhere in the range of $50-$150 USD/hr (or higher), so usually bounties don't make financial sense for the people doing them as they are usually not high enough. Of course often people have other additional motivations in addition to or instead of $$$, but keep in mind adding low amounts of money can sonetimes back fire; many people who would do things for free would refuse to do things for small and medium amounts of money. The other problem with bounties is sometimes there is misalignment - people try and do the bare minimum and you end up with unusable crap or worse the person who created the bounty doesn't understand the problem and makes it for the wrong thing. In many situations the technical part is only a small part of the work, and getting someone to do it does not really move the needle on actually making it happen (I agree 100% with Jmabel on the benefits of a good PM). As an aside, i have a vauge memory of User:Eloquence trying to setup a bounty for DPL or RSS mediawiki features a long time ago. However i can't find any reference to it online so maybe that is only in my imagination. Bawolff (talk) 14:16, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
P.s. Don't let me disuade you though, even though i have doubts about the value of monentary rewards, getting a list of feature requests to a state where you could run a succesful bounty program (i.e. you have a ranked list of features where the requirements are well documented and all appropriate stakeholders have bought in to the design choices, plus dedicated CR resources) would be hugely valuable. People would probably start doing things off that list without any monentary compensation. The primary blockers for volunteer devs is that nobody knows what the community actually wants, nobody really wants to put in the social effort to get consensus on the technical requirements, nobody really wants to do things if its a gamble whether you will get timely code review. Fix all that, and you wont need to pay people. Bawolff (talk) 14:43, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Interesting feedback, thanks. I don't see the point with the bounties not making financial sense; it's some monetary incentive vs no such incentive. I was well aware of the potential backfiring issue but I'm not sure if that's what you meant: I was thinking of if some people get money for their development, the volunteers who do it without compensation would feel less motivated and/or would implement the issues with bounties instead of the other things (latter is not necessarily all bad). I don't think people doing just the bare minimum would be a substantial problem as it would still have to pass review and validation and just doing the minimal implementation is fine. Do the more advanced stuff later and just build the minimum thing first of all is a great principle. This also makes it much less likely there's work on things that will later be scrapped. There are lot of open bugs and wishes that are such a list of feature requests already, such as many of the good-first-bug things or issues with lots of subscribers who wait for it to finally be implemented etc. I don't see many devs working on many of these; sth that could be done is to make such lists more visible; e.g. via the aforementioned banner that links to a landing page where such wishes and issues could be listed where devs can see how some of them are interesting to them and sth that would be worth implementing. That nobody knows what the community actually wants is false and probably most issues don't need some "consensus on the technical requirements". Timely code review is something the WMF can and should improve, for example by hiring more devs that do these or again facilitating more volunteers to join these efforts. I don't say wish bounties are needed; it's one option and it's especially an option since the WMF is still not showing much interest in actually increasing development. I again would donate (under certain circumstances) to a non-profit organization that uses >95% of its donations for actual tangible software development of concrete issues & wishes and such could be achieved via wish bounties so I think there may well be some potential there. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:27, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
By backfiring I mean psychologically. There is a weird thing for some people, where once you put a dollar number on something people start to value it very differently. If its free, they center the work on more intangible values, but once a dollar value is assigned they stop thinking about the intangible values and start viewing it solely through a money lens. Admittedly this is a bit just my personal opinion - it could be wrong or maybe only apply to a small minority of contributors. Re, contributors getting jealous of those getting money - while I agree, i think that ship has long sailed with all the WMF paid people. By minimum, i don't mean Minimum-viable-product (Which i agree is a good thing), I mean code that is at minimum level of quality which might be difficult to review and cause manitenance problems (or other externalities later). Re issues with lots of subscribers. Often these have hidden issues or reasons for not doing them that need to be resolved. For a bounty program to be successful, hidden issues need to be surfaced, since the bounty-completer is likely to be an outsider and won't have the unspoken context. Regardless, I would encourage people interested in this idea to keep a top 5 list of what they think the most viable & valuable tasks to turn into bounties would be. It would give us something concrete to talk about even if nobody has ponied up any cash yet. Bawolff (talk) 22:26, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
See m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027#The problem that underlies most issues and challenges noted here and elsewhere.
Prototyperspective (talk) 00:47, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

"Hist" becoming "History"

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I noticed that the "hist" link on Special:Watchlist and Special:Contributions now says "history". Is there a reason this was changed? I'm not sure it's necessary and the fact it's wider than "diff" makes it look very awkward. - The Bushranger (talk) 06:05, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

I found that weird, too. But my main reaction is: I'm sorry anyone put any time into changing that, and hope they don't then waste more time changing it back. - Jmabel ! talk 23:47, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
See phab:T244411. The change has been reverted. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 00:05, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Still seeing "history" on my watchlist. I assume the reversion is still percolating through the system? - The Bushranger (talk) 04:51, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
That's correct. It's not deployed yet, at least not here. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 04:53, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Changes take 0 to 14 days to be deployed, depending on day of the week and any possible unforeseen problems that cause temporary holds —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 16:01, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2026-06

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MediaWiki message delivery 17:40, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Not mentioned here, as it isn't really relevant for most projects, but I fixed a number of video pipeline problems.
  • Transcode pipeline had files that had crashed but for which the crash had not been registered properly. phab:T385270
  • Some Opus files were not properly recognized phab:T414643
  • Some Ogg files had duration 0. After this week that should be fixed phab:T414348
Additonally, a few things are currently in progress. They are either fixed or about to be fixed in getID3, which should trickle down to Commons somewhere in the next few weeks, including:
  • very small files would crash
  • midi files without tempo events had no duration phab:T414645
  • flac files could have no duration phab:T414641
  • chunked uploads of webm sometimes crashed phab:T403213
  • streamed (youtube) webm does not have duration phab:T357035
And of longer term interest in the image area
  • MediaWiki will now directly render SVGs by default. This is not active for WMF, but the hope is that by moving this forward we will someday get there.
  • JPEG XL files can soon be recognized, which is a prerequisite for parsing and thumbnailing them at some point phab:T270855
I hope that makes people happy. And if you are interested in working on problems similar to do, i encourage you to do so and to tag me as reviewer of your work on gerrit. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 11:36, 4 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, great efforts and results! Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 21:01, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
TheDJ makes important statements here. I think Com:Textured 3D is watched with high anticipation, too --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 10:01, 6 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

{{int:Talkpagelinktext}} getting substituted on custom signatures

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{{int:Talkpagelinktext}} is a template for translating "talk", but when using a custom signature with templates, it automatically substitutes every template, even the translation template, thus losing the translation. Is there a workaround for this? HyperAnd [talk] 13:18, 5 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Creative Commons Search Portal now uses MediaSearch by default

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A few weeks ago, I discovered that the search.creativecommons.org uses a regular text search instead of the media search interface. The text search is not well suited for finding media files, it only searches for a keyword and it does not show any media files. Well, the good news is that this is now fixed. I also corrected the project name there, which was "Wikipedia Commons". Nemoralis (talk) 16:55, 6 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Protection question

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This page currently says it's cascade-protected, but I was able to edit it as a non-admin. What's happening to cause the discrepancy? Sdkbtalk 20:03, 6 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Sdkb Per point 3 of Commons:Village pump/Technical/Archive/2025/03#Tech News: 2025-10, since March 2025, the cascading protection in this case only includes upload protection, and doesn't include edit protection. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 20:22, 6 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Ah, thanks! That's a nice improvement! We need to update the notice in that case. Sdkbtalk 21:32, 6 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thumbnail problem

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Anyone know why no thumbnail shows for File:View west on Boyer Avenue, Seattle, December 15, 1911 (MOHAI 13058).jpg, and/or can fix it? - Jmabel ! talk 04:01, 7 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Jmabel: I can see the various thumbnail sizes (330px, 960px, etc.) fine on my end. Are you still experiencing the issue? ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 08:03, 7 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Kevin Payravi: I can see several sizes of thumbnail, but on the file page itself the preview is blank. If that's just me and not a more general problem, then it's odd but not important. - Jmabel ! talk 19:55, 7 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
I see both thumbnails in Firefox. There have been multiple threads about the thumbnails missing problem here, two or one in I think the latest archive. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:04, 7 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Problem of accessing Commons

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Since 2025, when accessing Commons without using a VPN, it has sometimes been inaccessible for a day, sometimes for several days, and occasionally, clicking "Publish changes" after editing fails to go through. May I ask what is causing this? Huangdan2060 (talk) 14:16, 7 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

If even regular reading access is limited your IP might be on an AI scraper list. Maybe you can get help at ca@wikimedia.org. GPSLeo (talk) 14:50, 7 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, but the page you provided cannot be accessed in China. Huangdan2060 (talk) 01:09, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
That's not a page, it's an email address. Jmabel ! talk 05:12, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Irritating preview for grayscale GeoTIFFs

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Hi!

I filed a task. When special GeoTIFFs like "digitale Geländemodelle" (digital terrain models) are uploaded, we see a plain white preview. This is irritating and may lead to premature deletion requests. When I put this file in QGIS, I see graphical information. This task may be useful, as Commons acquires more and more GeoData. --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 20:56, 7 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Help downloading full-resolution images

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Could anyone please help obtain the full-resolution images found here? I'm able to upload the as-displayed images, but—if you click on the images—you're able to zoom in further. I also tried dezoomify (website & extension), but it did not work. There are for use on the article Serpent labret with articulated tongue and, as works by the U.S. federal government, should be in the public domain. Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 17:16, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

I read a bit in the source code, hinting at that the source is using Open Seadragon. Using that info to google, I landed upon https://hackernoon.com/how-to-download-hi-res-images-from-museum-websites-b4446387e75d That may help other people investigate further, I stopped at that point... Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 20:04, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps I'm missing something, but are you referring to this image version (2000x1321)? I just copied the image URL from the page you linked and remove the size parameter (&max=980) to get the image in its actual size. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, both. Tvpuppy, I tried that too, but it's still smaller than the zoomed-in version—so unless you can zoom in beyond full resolution (i.e., you zoom in more, but it just gets fuzzier), it seems there's a higher-resolution version. --Usernameunique (talk) 01:02, 9 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2026-07

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:27, 9 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Process Duplicates

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Can somebody explain what will happen if I will press "Process Duplicates". I found it on File:2022 California Proposition 27 by County.svg and a duplicate. I do not understand how to handled the two content pages. I did search for a Help: page, but did not find any. Thanks, Ellywa (talk) 22:39, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Looks like you get a tool intended to let you merge any content from the two different file pages and then to turn one file into a redirect to the other file. However, it doesn't look to me like it's a very clear UI (e.g. both file descriptions are editable; which one will be used once the merge takes place?)
Anyone know who is in charge of this thing? - Jmabel ! talk 00:43, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

FastCCI dysfunctional again?

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I was completing the overly incomplete Category:Videos of Trochilidae after creating a redirect to it from the easier-to-find (in HotCat & UploadWizard autocomplete, Commons search, and Web search engines) Category:Videos of hummingbirds. To do so, I used deepcategory:"Trochilidae" -incategory:"Videos of Trochilidae". There, I noticed lots of videos of helicopters.

(All of this is a normal method to complete a category which could be applied in many cases, maybe at some point more systematically or semi-automatically or routinely.)

There is just one way to see why a given file is underneath a category branch. That is going to the respective category -> Page information -> copy page ID -> append ?fastcci_from=id with the id (29437) to the URL of the file one would like to check that one has to open in a new tab. For example:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Escuadrilla_Hist%C3%B3rica_Mentor_y_Patrulla_Aspa_-_BugWarp_408.webm?fastcci_from=29437

However, it doesn't work. There just recently was this thread about the topic of category<->file path but FastCCI is already dysfunctional again.

@Dschwen: Could you restart it please and if possible look into why that tool is going down all the time and fix that (or create an issue about how it could be fixed)? Another approach to this would be for somebody to implement m:Community Wishlist/Wishes/A way to see why a file is somewhere underneath a specific category (tool to show cat-path) (voting open) where this functionality would be in a separate tool that doesn't go down all the time and where one can display the cat-path within the deepcategory view (linked above) without having to open a new tab an all the time-intensive manual things. Thanks, Prototyperspective (talk) 13:04, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Comment, about the helicopters videos, the reason they are under Category:Trochilidae is because "Trochilidae --> Things named after hummingbirds --> Airbus Helicopters H120 Colibri". Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 17:37, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Ah thanks so it's another case of Things named after… categories introducing unexpected/offtopic files; see Commons:Village pump#Moving Things named after xyz categories out of xyz cats. Nevertheless, it would be nice if the tool could be restarted. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:46, 11 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Download ZIP contents through OpenRefine

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I would like to upload a batch of orthophotos of Thuringia. Each tile comes as ZIP file with TIF, meta and tfw file. Is there a way to let the Wikimedia servers extract only the TIF to be uploaded? Having them down- and reuploaded on my PC probably takes some time. Thanks! --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 16:15, 12 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Probably a good candidate for Commons:Bots/Work requests. - Jmabel ! talk 18:27, 12 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

CommonsDelinker is dead

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CommonsDelinker (talk · contributions (views) · deleted user contributions · deleted uploads · recent activity (talk · project · deletion requests) · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth) Still processes deletions and cat moves, but no file moves since 2026-01-22. There are ca 1750 accumulated unprocessed requests. The page toolsadmin lists 7 administrators: @User:AntiCompositeNumber @User:Grin, @User:Magnus Manske, @User:Mdaniels5757, @User:Peter Gervai, @User:Steinsplitter, @User:Zhuyifei1999. -- Taylor 49 (talk) 02:02, 14 February 2026 (UTC)Reply